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hello everyone and welcome to another week with webinars and today we have a wonderful guest dr. mcdougal is taking a day off and as usual the second Thursday of every month we have dr. Doug Lyall who has just provided some amazing lectures for us and today the title is very intriguing I'm even intrigued and it's called dare to be lousy so just a few words about dr. Doug Lyall he's a psychologist for the mcdougal wellness program and the director of research for True North health center and dr. Lyle has extensively lectured in universities Stanford Cornell and many others and he is the co-author of the pleasure tract mastering the hidden force that undermines health and happiness and he's the founder of esteem dynamics esteem dynamics or you will see the website in just a minute on your screen and he is available for phone consultations and you can find more about those consultations and his website his Team Dynamics dot org so I would like to welcome dr. Doug Lyall how are you today dr. Lisle okay great to be here again very good what we're looking forward to another great talk by you so why don't you go ahead and set up the PowerPoint in the meantime I will remind people that the three-day intensive weekend with dr. mcdougal is coming up and may I think is 12 13 14 is the is the second weekend in May and you get all the lectures really that you get when you attend attend a program and you also have a way to sample the food and I will be there I'm really excited that this time I can make it so hopefully I will be able to meet many people and who knows I may be able to do a little concert for you all on Friday or Saturday night we'll see so dr. Lyle are you ready to get started I believe I'm all set all right here we go he's all yours great all right well I call this talk dare to be lousy and so this is gonna we're gonna look down through the some of the forces that stop us from improving and getting better and being inspired and actually it's going to turn out that a trick behind all this is actually this doing that it's required that we eat lousy so we're gonna start on this adventure and we're gonna begin right here of course with some of my famous artwork now the as I was a very young man I was a little bit an out of art supply money and so my dad said that I needed to go do something useful and of course my mother agreed with him and so what I decided was that I was going to go get a job in building trades so I tried to convince this guy named Frank that I want to plaster because he was a plaster oh and so he believed me which was amazing and I so I worked for him for about a week and I found out that what it meant to be a plaster was hauling 90 pound bags of concrete to cement mixers so after he fired me then we had to do something else so I didn't know well so I was going to do and my dad said I needed some motivation I thought well we're better just to find out about motivation then go to to psychology school but before I could went there my dad actually had me go to a lecturer in Southern California by the name of Jim Renan and mr. Allen had some very interesting things to say about motivation and one of them was that in this life you ought to look at your whole scorecard at the end and that it ought to show your runs and your hits and your errors and the great plays you made and the times you struck out but it shouldn't show that you haven't played and as a young man I listen to that and it rang a bell with me for the following reason a lot of young men like me will stand at the side of the dance floor and watch the other guys go up there and just give it a shot and so after watching this process many times watching across the floor and having no runs and no hits and no errors I tried to figure out why it is that I was often stopped at trying to do things like going up and ask some girl to dance or other such things that we're stopping me and so that will eventually lead me instead of doing anything about it it'll lead me to go to psychology school so there I go to the school and it's got arches and columns and it's all very impressive so certainly somebody there should know something so I got a great professor here and I asked him why is it that I seem to stop myself and don't sometimes roll up my shirtsleeves and do what it is that I can do as best I can do it regardless of the consequences and he told me it was far too complex and there was my far too much mumbo-jumbo for me to learn to ask that question and so by the time I graduated I forgot to ask anybody but now that I knew enough I was supposed to know now the I did notice something interactions with my dad and that is whenever my dad was so sure I could do something I was not so sure I could do it so the more he was insisting that I could do something the more I would be resistant that I wasn't so sure that I could same time that whenever he would say I probably couldn't do something I would turn around and feel like hey you know what I'll show you because I think maybe I can so this is a very interesting dynamic that will go between encouragement or expectations and what happens to motivation so that curious little backdrop that was sitting in the back of my mind for many years and would give rise to what is known as the slow hunch and so I knew there was something to this it just sort of percolated at the back of my mind for a long time now it's going to turn out that there are other people that have been thinking about these kinds of things and some good insight has come out of some of this thinking so we're gonna talk about three major ideas in and around this notion of what stops us the first is going to be from a Stanford professor by the name of Carol Dweck it's going to be called mindset theory and we're going to take a look at that and then we're going to take a look at self-esteem theory from mark Leary adieu and then finally we're gonna learn a little something about human potential so first we're gonna start with dr. Dweck and doctor the whack came up with a theory called mindset theory it's very very simple and this is and yet it is a useful thing to know about it's a way of thinking about sometimes what stops us what she discovered was that people sent seem to have one or two ideas about their ability to do something but they either have look she calls a fixed mindset and that's the notion that you simply have talent at certain degrees and you can either do something and you can't depending upon talent or they have a growth mindset that says that they don't really think about the talent issue it's just the idea that you've got a you've got a fumble and stumble and learn but that you can grow and get better so these are two very different kinds of mindsets that people might have with respect to deciding about whether they could become a psychologist or a plasterer or a typist or a computer programmer person or a surgeon or a pianist in other words people are thinking some degree gee do I have the talent for it and that's that's leaning a little bit towards more the fixed mindset or the concept of hey could I learn how to do that that's more of a growth mindset and so she got the idea but these two different concepts might have some pretty different outcomes for people and this is what she did so she would take kids and she would coach them with respect to whether or not they would they coach them toward a fixed or a growth mindset so if the kid did some math problems really well she would say wow you've got a lot of talent you got a lot of ability in now so that's sort of reinforcing a fixed mindset or if they work pretty hard and did pretty well she would say wow you worked really hard that was good hard work that you did she didn't say that you did really well and that you were smart whether you had Talent so that was more of a growth mindset so in just the way that the words were used on these kids this is what happened that the grades of the growth mindset kids tended to do better so they would do things to sort of reinforce the growth mindset saying hey you're working really hard good job when they kept giving feedback to say things like wow you're really smart or you're you've got a lot of ability there it would cause a more of a fixed mindset where people would not want to try so in the previous excuse me previous study like though it's got to turn out that if you tell people you worked really hard would you like some more problems to work on and they will say yes whereas if you give them a bunch of problems and say wow you did really well you're really smart would you like some some problems excuse me some some more problems some of these are kind of a little bit harder they say no okay so they in fact get intimidated if their concept is is that their talent is fix now then she actually went away from great students a great school age students and went into college students to see if this would still stick and a does so in a longer term study they looked at coaching college students what by towards either a growth mindset or a fixed mindset type of way of looking at things and this is what happens so when you convince people that the reason why they're doing better isn't this are smart but it's because if they're working hard they they are willing to dig in but if you essentially communicate that the reason people do the way they do is because of their innate talent or abilities then people will not try as far so what really sees two big problems with the fixed mindset if if you believe in a fixed mindset or you get convinced to this in some way then you might not believe that your effort really matters that much and so you will not take advantage of what can happen when people apply themselves another part of this is that people seem to protect their egos by not trying very hard because if you don't try very hard and you fail then you haven't lost as much so this is the equivalent of a kid at the side of the dance floor if you if you do not go over and ask a girl to dance then you have not lost anything and so therefore you just sit right there but notice that really the scorecard is the same or the guy that tries and fails utterly versus the guy that does not try at all and fails neither one of them dances with a girl but there is an ego protected mechanism that will stop people from trying if they feel like other people think that they are already good at something so this is two very big problems with the sort of fixed mindset or what we might call the talent mindset now self-esteem theory is slightly different and I mean it's going to cover some similar ground here and this is going to come from dr. more Cleary so think about a person in as a as a social center of a little group not that he's the most popular guy you just think about our guy in the middle bill and that other people value him to varying degrees now these are the guys on the outside value at the other people too but they have a little thought in their head about how much they value this guy and so when when this guy gets signals from other people that that they like him it feels good and so Leary's notion is this is actually the feeling of being a scheme they're valued this kind of what Leary would call self-esteem in the sense that you feel good about yourself because other people think well of you now Larry found this out almost by accident he was doing studies with group dynamics and what he did was he had people interact with a group of people and then get feedback later but the other people in the group enjoyed the study too and they were going to get together the next week or so and then would you like to be included because they they wanted you to come along with them you have people got that feedback they felt very good their self esteem was five but if they got feedback that they had been rejected by the group their self esteem is love and so Larry looked at this and said Wow self esteem it's not what we think it is it's not very very stable in fact it's very changeable and so he could actually change people's feelings about themselves very very quickly in the laboratory by just having them interact with some people for half an hour and then having those people seemingly hid these people either positive or negative feedback that they'd been accepted or rejected by the group now this research was criticized by by other psychologists and said you know this is not true that if in fact people have strong self-esteem they will not have their self esteem hurt by rejecting feedback so of course he then found very high self esteem people and did exactly the same study and did they not exactly the same results there was very independent people who supposedly don't care what other people think are just as sensitive to feedback with rejection acceptances everybody else so Larry finds that this is actually a universal mechanism of human nature so we're really quite sensitive to feedback from other people and this becomes part process of self-esteem theory but now we're going to look at it a little in a little more detail but here are the ratings of other people have of me so you can see that three of the guys think that I'm sort of the third most cool guy in the village that's fine there's about half a dozen of us the guy down below here thinks I'm the fourth most viable he's total jerk the guy that thinks on the second most viable that's a very insightful he's had good judgment ever since we were kids now what's inside my head is actually an esteem meter a very sensitive device that is really tracking what other people think of me and so if I get good feedback it feels good if I get bad feedback it feels bad and this is essentially the mark Leary's mechanism that he talks about now inside the sustain meter when I get positive feedback as you see on the right it causes me to feel happy and confident when I get negative feedback it causes me to be depressed and anxious and so what we see is that the esteem meter mechanism is literally a guidance system giving feedback for social success so just in the same way that when you eat something tasty it's a signal for survival and the same way if you're cold then you get warmer that's a signal for your survival and feels good in the same way when you get positive feedback from other people that is actually a critical device for helping you track what you must have been doing to cause that to happen and to do those things again so it's a esteem mechanism is literally a mechanism to guide social success or a creature as a human that is very very carefully calibrated to social feedback because that's critical for survival reproductive process now it turns out there's going to be three primary and seams that we feel so you can feel very good trade partners over there that's like bosses or customers so that's like in the world of Commerce and business you have mates that we care about friends and we care about and trade partners so we're competing in these social arenas with other people and we're trying to get good feedback so when we get good feedback from any of these domains it feels good when we get bad feedback it doesn't feel good so we're we're built to actually try to do things that cause us good feedback and that's how this the esteem mechanisms work now human beings and other animals make what we call competitive displays to try to compete without a steam so they might sing dance through sports work on their beauty work on our little chats moonlight 4k and so in this way what we see is that people and animals actually try to find ways to get scheme we don't think of it in that way for animals but that's what they're doing so here's a young chimpanzee and what he's doing is he's shaking a tree try to impress the girl then this is a way for him to demonstrate that he's valuable and if she you know raises her eyebrows and Koons at him that feels good because he just he just found out that he has more scheme and we know what it's going to try to do with that now incidentally for anybody that wants to know I have tried to do this before and it does not work so it doesn't work for humans it only seems to work for chimps now here up in the tree when you're a bird stripping that's what they're doing is they're doing the same thing they're trying to advertise what great voices they have I've tried to do this and that it's not worked for me but it did work for Frank Sinatra so this can't happen if you've got a good voice I suggest that you use it now human beings displays are very varied so they've played basketball they throw a football they race cars they do music they write poetry and they paint they do all kinds of stuff and so human display is we're trying to get a theme are very diverse now here's the purpose of human displays here's our guy with a guitar and he's basically chirping and singing and it sounds like Bob Dylan or something else but really what he's trying to do is he's trying to say that he has good genes made with me just like the bird in the tree now I notice that there's a crucial difference between animals and people that when animals do their display it's basically a very direct display of their gene quality so if you can shake that tree you can shake that tree if you can sing that note you can sing that note but healings actually will reverse their displays and get better at them so it actually makes your genes look fancier than they are if you put out effort so this is very important so this is why human beings worked so hard of things is because we're trying to me we're trying to do a really good job for our displays in the village and if we have great displays then we will out-compete people that don't have as good its place so we could out-compete people that have more latent quote talent if we work harder than they do however the so people will make inferences about our gene quality from our displays so it's going to turn out that that our guitar player might tell a story and that is that he might play a little mary mary have a little m on the guitar and say how hard he tried it how hard it was to learn it but if he does this the girl says well that's no big deal i'm not very impressed but if he just picks up the guitar and acts like he didn't even try then she might be super impressed that wow if you did that so well without even trying i wonder what it would be like if you did draw and so we're kind of motivated to act like we're not trying that hard and trying to act a little cool about this and so this is very characteristic of human nature which is not characteristic of animal nature so we have a uniquely human problem that other animals don't have which is to actually try to figure out how hard we should try and in particularly if anybody's watching to be careful sometimes to not be looking like we're trying that hard now there's a classic cinema moment in the movie called the summer 42 where young man's trying to impress his attractive neighbor lady and she needs him to lift something and it's beautifully done with the camera shot that he he's actually struggling really hard to lift this thing but he's acting like he's not struggling very hard so this is uh this is just classic and human nature to do this now in this is sort of I actually forgot what the story was on the right but there's a famous athlete of Deion Sanders that they called in primetime news maybe one of the greatest cornerbacks in the history of football he was super fast and so he can cover other receivers and he is down on the Hall of Fame he was an outstanding player but during his life during his career he would not practice very hard and everybody would be marveling at how how primetime was a goof off in practice or he would just practice minimally now it turns out later on it was discovered after he retired that this rusev totally arune's that around the entire league his players would shift from team to team and so there would be crossed off around the whole league about how Deion Sanders just didn't didn't work down or the practice but actually he had told the owner that this is what I'm gonna do to intimidate the entire National Football League and but I will go home and work very hard to make sure on the top condition and that's what he did so he did he minimally practiced the practice everybody on the team thought it was ridiculous said he was such an incredible athlete that it wasn't even any fun for him to practice because he was just too good for us meanwhile then prime time would go home and work out ferociously at home and so this was a way a really clever and unusual story about how people try to look nonchalant and and look like they're not trying that hard in order to enhance the display so now what we're going to look at is the following that we've got real live mates friends and trading partners out there that we're looking for esteemed feedback but in order to get it we have to advertise and we have to do you have to make displays in order to do that we're gonna have to put out effort in Reverse so it doesn't do any good to put out up burning reverse unless we are improving in our rehearsals so we need to have a mechanism or telling us that our that our dancing and singing and our chess playing is getting better and so what that audience is we don't want to you know want to reverse in front of other people because then they'll see that we're working harder and if they see that we're working harder they won't be that impressed with the display so what human beings created or have evolved is an imaginary audience and that imaginary audience can watch us in our own rehearsals and give us feedback as if they were real people and this is actually the self-esteem mechanism and so the self-esteem mechanism is built of an imaginary audience a long-ago ass team leader that sits inside and yet the imaginary audience gives us feedback on our rehearsals and if we do a beautiful rehearsal they give us positive feedback and if we do a lousy rehearsal they give us negative feedback just like it is regular people watching now let's go back to mr. Ronnie's scorecard scorecard question is the following but at the end of this life let it show your runs your hit your errors the great plays you made the times you struck out let it show at all but don't let it show you how to play how would you explain that many people including myself the times in my life sit on the sidelines and do not roll up their shirtsleeves and give something that best effort and mr. Owen was trying to ask that question why does that happen he didn't have an answer he was an inspirational speaker that that you felt the pressure of his words saying yes why are you standing on the sidelines why are you not taking charge of this and doing the very best you can let it show the times that you struck out but get out there and swing the bat that's what he's trying to say and it made sense to him but to us often at times in our lives it makes sense to not swing the bat and to sit on the sidelines and so we're going to now try to look a little bit more into this as we put this piece together what we're going to now look at is the truth about human potential and we're going to get an assist from a fine writer by the name of Daniel Coyle and a book called the talent code and this is the story of the talent code and what we're looking at right there I'll tell you about it in a second because it's not a bull's eye but it might as well be we're going to now look at what this funny little picture is now that the story of the talent that goes to brazilian soccer and nowadays the world is caught up but there was a time for many many years in 1940s 50s 60s where Brazilian soccer was head and shoulders above the rest of the world and in looking at brilliant Brazilian soccer players at that time people were mesmerized at the quickness and ability and agility and it seemed like they were just naturally more talented than everybody else and so as people tried to figure this out they thought well maybe it's because it's a bunch of poor kids play so much soccer and but the truth is there's poor countries all over the world where people played soccer and that that wasn't accounting for it well maybe it was just that there was a lot of particularly athletic people in Brazil and but it turns out there's athletic people everywhere if you measure the subjectively and so this is going to be in watching brazilians turns out that somebody came up for an aim with us the reason why Brazilians actually were so dominant is because they played a little game that you played in a smaller territory I forget what it's called foosball or some such thing I'm getting it wrong but the thing is is that they didn't play outside on the big arena they played inside and by playing inside in much shorter quarters the kids had to develop very quick moves and they got massive practice because they were in such close quarters they had to they got more repetitions and this leads to what the world calls the holy effect it's like my god and you look at these guys they can do things that nobody else can do it looks like it's magical but the truth of the matter is it's not magical it's simply a result of more practice than everybody else other countries with poor kids who have athletic ambitions did not play this game inside and as a result they did not get the level of the practice the practice of playing an inside game it was estimated to be once this was all figured out to be six times as efficient as playing outside now we're going to learn about what's happening with practice this is a phenomenon this is a part of your nervous system called the myelin sheath and I want you to think about these as wires might as well be electrical wires these are our nerve cells and these nerve cells what goes on is that there will be a suppose one of those cells nerve cells if you think about one in the middle of the group on the left that suppose you were trying to live in to play the piano and you were gonna take your your you know your index finger and your teacher was going to show you where to hit middle C and he or she wanted you to have your hand up at the right angle and start to move that finger up and down if you did what that is is a pattern of electrical impulses going to go down one of those wires and it's going to eventually attach itself it's going to hit a muscle that's it's attached to and give the muscle the signal to contract and that's why you see your hand your finger will move up and down and if that key but what we're going to find is that this is the first time you've done it that other nearby fingers like your middle finger wants to move and that there's actually a little bit of uncoordinated as you try to do this over and over again you're not that smooth and not that quick at it and the reason is is that as that electricity is going down that wire the it's leaking electricity to the nearby other wires and the other wires are moving a little bit and because some of that electricity is being essentially wasted the signal is not that strong and it's not that fast but as you continue to move that finger and use that one wire more what happens is is that there's a material that gets squirted out from nearby support cells Oh myelin and what it does is it wraps itself around that one wire that we're trying to use so often that we're using so often and it insulates it essentially with a waxy substance and that waxy substance what it does is it causes the electrical signal to not leak to the nearby neurons and so it insulates it just like insulation of wires and and as in doing that what happens is that finger gets more accurate so it's not moved the other fingers are not moving and the signal is faster and the more you hit that little thing the the more and more myelin gets wrapped so we can see in a little myelin picture there's a little dot where does that that's a cross-section if we're gonna cut that neuron the little black dot represents the the neuron and then the first little circle is the first little set of myelin sheath that got wrapped around there and then the person kept working at it and more myelin sheath got left and then the person kept working and more myelin sheath got left it turns out that a person that is an expert in piano will wrap 250 sheets of myelin sheath around some of those neurons and they will effectively make a fantastically fast and efficient circuit and they can move their fingers faster than you can imagine now here's the deal that they could not do this because they had Talent this is not how this worked this had to be mechanically caused by the repetitive efforts there is no other way to have this happen myelin sheath is going to be the way that this is going to work and so no genius is born mozart was not born with the ability to play the piano but it started had to wrap the myelin sheath okay and Michael Jordan was not born with the ability to shoot a basketball he had to wrap the myelin sheath and so what we're gonna find out is that all human ability winds up being very mechanical as the the brain simply goes through a set of procedures in order to make the the thing that the person is doing over and over again more and more efficient it's literally a part of the energy conservation system that resides as a biological imperative just the reason why an organism goes after a predator goes after a a prey animal that's weak and sick in the same way the myelin sheath gets wrapped around neurons that you use over and over again because it knows that you're going to likely use them again and at once to make that movement efficient now this is how you can use this to learn better turns out that if we tried to have you memorize the words on the left you will be you'll do so so at it and you can keep repeating them but if we make you do it on the right we do we try to have you memorizing things on the right you will be several times more efficient at remembering these later and the reason is is that there's something about the way these neurons work that if you have to struggle you learn better it's fascinating concept so struggling winds up being an essential component in helping wrap the myelin sheath now the ninety-eight 1990s there was a one or two South Korean women on the LPGA Tour and that year I think it was 1997 it's one of these young girls on in Cirie pack I believe won the PGA Championship which is a major championship in golf this electrified South Korea and all over South Korea little girls got out their little clubs and dads were sawing off little clubs and little girls started swinging golf clubs within 15 years they overwhelmingly dominated the LPGA Tour in the United States it's not even close now so sitting inside of South Korea as was anywhere was all kinds of human potential right there and all that needed to happen was the wrapping of the myelin sheath and they did it and 15 years later we see it happen okay so there is nothing magical about Brazil and Brazilians ability to play soccer they wrap the myelin sheath and now they can do it well there's nothing magical about South Korean women and their ability to play golf they wrap the myelin sheath and now they play well so this is how this works a music educator by the name of Gary McPherson tried to figure out what caused some musicians to be great and some musicians to the average and some to be so so so he's taking talented young music students and trying to figure out what was going on try to figure out whether it was their intelligence to cause them to be good later or did they have a ear where they had perfect pitch or whether they were because music was kind of like mathematics was a bit of mathematics or did they have a good sense of rhythm or if they have great sensor sensor I'm motor coordination in their hands maybe family income they were getting support from their families to help them get that a lessons none of this mattered none of it here's what matter what mattered was if you ask them a simple question do you plan to be playing this instrument 10 years from now it turns out if the answer was yes then when those kids practice they were serious about it and they wrapped the myelin sheath when it turned out that they weren't dead serious they were fiddling around and they won't really focus and so it turned out when you fiddle around and I'm really don't have your heart in it as she doesn't referee well so this is very interesting about something that he found when people are determined and they're determined to struggle and get it right that's when this happens I believe this guy that figured this out was a guy named de Groot in the early nineteen hundreds maybe nineteen forties he was very interested in so called geniuses of chess and so what he did was he measured how well chess players if you move chess pieces around and then let him look at the board for a few seconds whether these brilliant chess masters could tell you where the pieces were and it turns out they could do incredible where an average player couldn't do it very well and so many people thought that that means that these chess people are just so much smarter than everybody else and that's the reason there was such great players but then he ran a very interesting experiment what he did was he actually put them pieces on the board in a random fashion that made no sense relative to chess and then he showed the board with the pieces to the so-called geniuses versus average people and there was no difference it turns out that what the so-called geniuses had done is that they had learned through wrapping the myelin sheath characteristics of the board and the nature of relationship between pieces and only through repetition had they learned this they'd wrapped the myelin sheath so that when they looked at a board they could see that board in its relationships very well this was not because of some superhuman genius ability that they had it was latent to them it was actually a characteristic of what they had won this was a fairly important study in psychology was totally ignored about 50 years which brings me back to dancing now one of the reasons I didn't go out there and try to dance is because I said well I don't have any talent at Dancing and I don't have any seem to have any sense of rhythm and I'm just gonna step on people's feet and it's gonna be embarrassing and the girl is gonna say no anyway so forget it well fast-forward 40 years and we read the talent cone by Daniel corny and we learn about mindset theory by Carol Dweck and we learn that you know what you got to just be lousy you got to be willing to be lousy if you're ever gonna wrap the myelin sheath and get better and instead of trying to look cool and never doing this I finally decided in my 50s you know what I might as well try to learn how to dance now I'm gonna step on a few key and I'm gonna beat up a few toes but you know what there's no possible way if I get some coaching and work on the fundamentals and I'm not gonna be better than but when I started there's no way that's not gonna happen is now I know that the myelin sheath will wrap the myelin sheath will improve my abilities and I can't stop myself from improving all I have to do is I have to dare to be lousy for a while and then it's gonna get better I did this by the way and after about four months I went from being terrible to being just mediocre which was a huge improvement I'm very proud that so this is the process of human improvement accomplishment of any kind looks complicated it looks very complicated it looks like you have to be a genius to do it well but you never do what needs to happen is we simply need to break the complicated accomplishment into small parts and then what we have to you is we have to practice slowly and it's going to turn out that when we practice slowly we are going to make errors and folks we have candido's because it's in the struggling of making errors in very slow practice but the myelin sheath starts to form it starts to figure out what it needs to do and if we struggle so much the better so if we're trying to focus and trying to do the best we can and we're screwing up we are absolutely on the right track that will start to build the myelin sheath practice makes myelin myelin makes perfect this is actually how this works so that whenever you witness someone doing something extremely well this never happened by accident it didn't happen through natural talent they may have had some natural talent that they were add to add to the mix but the truth of the matter is any ability at all coming from from any angle in life this happened as a result of this very slow methodical struggling we've headed to practice and that's what happens and finally at learning never ends but it doesn't matter if you six or sixty you can wrap the myelin sheath just fine so someone who has never played the piano before or there's never danced and worried that they can't do this are gonna look silly I guarantee you you will look silly and you're going to fumble and struggle but guess what you won't be fumbling and struggling for long because your nervous system ingeniously has the ability to wrap the myelin sheath and help you to get you more efficient and more smooth and more competent all we have to do is we have to dare ourselves that we're willing to be lousy and we are doomed to improve if we take the dare this is a little place called wile California it lives in my head and I know that across the creek here I'm in lousy County when I begin anything but across the creek is mediocre County things are going to get better over there I'm gonna go from lousy to mediocre all I have to do is cross that Creek and I know how to do it I have to wade into the water it's only goes up to your ankles it's not that bad it's and it's uncomfortable and slippery if you slip on a walk you might fall in and get wet and cold that's not that bad not going to get hurt just get across over there too mediocre County and the next county over is good that's where we start to get decent okay and after you're good if you keep doing it and if you're interested you'll get quite good and this is how we wind up folks with the ones you deserve thank you for listening and I hope you enjoyed it today thank you so much of July that this presentation gives us all hope that it's sometimes it's not just what we call natural talent but am i right to to paraphrase and say that what you presented is that it's the hard work that we put in right yes our work that we put in we will we will be paid very well for that hard work and and all we need to do is realize that's what it takes and don't be intimidated into thinking that we have to be a natural because we don't have to be right right well thank you very much again and I have put on the screen here your contact information okay see everybody actually I think I have I'm going to share the screen I have your website that I want to show people and let's see here I can do you see that on the screen yeah okay start work that's great yeah this is a yeah I like this website it's very clean and clear and as you can all see here there's a lot of very helpful information and there is a contact button there and let's see right here schedule your one-on-one phone consultation so this is great thank you for I know that you work really hard this website it looks great people can also feel free to contact me also and by email ask me questions about anything always glad to share ideas and just try to help people on their way very good well I want to show one more thing here and just since we're getting close to the month of May what am I see I don't know if I chose the right thing to present hold on just a minute am i showing the dr. McDougall website yes okay very good I just want to also encourage people to go to the dr. McDougall calm and under education I think or programs actually here we have the three-day intensive program and one that is upcoming it's May 13th through 15th and dr. mcdougal of course is going to be there and lecturing and also you will be there right at lion always see that all right and then we also have Jeff Novick the that will be there and it's I really encourage you all to so attendance is a great way to to get started in your journey have plant-based eating diet very good well we look forward to next month and I appreciate your making the time to be here with us today thank you very much thanks for having me all right okay good bye everybody
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